Monday, April 6

CRASH: When Realities Collide in the Childhood Consciousness

Post Reason is a very interesting blog that I follow. In this posting, the writer, known as Kartott, recounts an incident that is in keeping with some of my recent postings, as well as Mike Clelland's writings in Hidden Experience. Specifically, it plays with an interesting theme: memory and childhood. When it comes to childhood memories, one wonders where subjective interpretation intersects with objective reality. Is there something inherently pure about the childlike mind that discards the need to separate realities?

Writes Kartott in Post Reason

Crash

I grew up in the air force - my dad flew KC 135s from about 1950 to 1970 (mostly cold war - SAC). When I was very young, about 3, we were stationed on a base in TX when an AF plane crashed behind our house. My father was not at home - most likely on alert or flying a mission. I have no conscious memory of the crash itself, but my mother said that it was so loud and shocking it caused me to go into convulsions. Our next door neighbor was a base doc. He gave me something to put me to sleep, then ran out to help the emergency crew. I don't know if I have the sequence these events right; only what my mother related (it strikes me as curious that a doctor would stop to medicate me before attempting to help the plane crew - so I wonder if this happened in a different order than my mother recalls). My memory is this: I am walking among in the wreckage of the plane. There is a smoke, and some hot stuff, possibly some fires here and there though this part is less clear. There are bodies and body parts. I remember seeing blood mixed in with red TX dirt. However, I was not actually physically there; I was there by another means. The strangest part is that I did not know that any of this was an actual memory until many years later. I experienced it as a recurring "nightmare" until well into my 20s. My mother had never spoken about the crash until I was in my mid-30s, so for years I thought it was just a nightmare that had nothing to do with anything real. When she told me about it, I was stunned with instant recognition. I can only conclude that my "nightmare" was a memory of coming out of my body (perhaps during the convulsions?) to visit the dead, dying, and injured crew (some did survive). These sketches (created some time ago) depict highly abstracted views of fragments of plane parts and bodies on a field, with eddying pools of individual consciousnesses moving about (white chalk spirals).

5 comments:

Atrueoriginall said...

That's a very interesting story and one of which I think she'll come to find out can be told in a similar fashion by many. Such things are not as unusual as many think, it's just that they haven't heard them much since most don't repeat them.

I have had many such incidents in my life and this one here below is my first.

I was 5 years old (I was in kindergarten) I was asleep in my bed and it was very late - around midnight. While asleep, I found myself outside of my house hovering about 60-80 feet above our street. As I looked out, I could see my house and then I looked down my street.

There was something around me. It was like a cloud but yet there were no clouds - certainly not this low anyway and there was no fog either. It was more like a mist but thicker and very white and I knew it was "someone". Weird to say that but that's the feeling that I was given, which was that this thing I was looking at and feeling around me was a living being.

While I hung there in the sky, I saw a truck coming down our street and a car pulled up to the corner by our house (station wagon). Suddenly the car pulled out and crashed into the truck. My dad was on his ham radio in the basement, which was the direction that the truck was headed after the collision and in the blink of an eye I was suddenly in the basement of my house looking at my dad and then suddenly I was looking through 'his eyes' at a set of headlights coming toward the small window in the basement just above his head. Immediately after that, I looked back toward the stairs (because my dad turned to run toward the stairs and I was still seeing through his eyes) and I saw a woman I had never seen before standing on the bottom step.

Then I hear a crash and I wake up from my sleep. I go downstairs crying and my mom' s on the phone and my dad ran out into the backyard. My mom was on the phone talking to the police about the crash. Nobody was saying anything to us for what seemed like a long time and we all started to cry. (Two other sisters). After a while I heard police sirens and shortly after that I heard a fire truck coming. By now my sisters are crying a lot because nobody will tell us what happened and we they were scared.

I then said to my mom that I saw the truck crash into the car at Peggy's house (my friend across the street). The car hit the house and that her mom and dad were on the sofa watching Lawrence Welk. According to my mom I said something more like they were watching the bubble man on tv. I guess you would have to know the relationship between bubbles and Lawrence Welk to understand that.

My mom knew I was in bed when it happened and so she asked me again what I was talking about. I told her that when I was sleeping I saw a truck coming down the street and a station wagon crashed into it. There is no way in the world I could have seen that since I was in bed and she certainly wouldn't let us go outside to see what happened. It was here that she knew that I was just like her and could see and do things that other people couldn't see.

I told my mom (in my little 5-year-old voice) that after the truck hit the station wagon that it came toward our house and it hit the corner of the house and then went toward our new garage (just skimming it) and then hit our old garage. It crushed my bicycle sitting outside of the garage. The truck didn't stop there though because it kept on going another 50 feet or so and went down a big embankment and crashed nose first into a concrete parking lot at the dry cleaners behind our house. The man in the truck died and his ear was cut off. I don't know what happened to the driver of the station wagon.

I saw all of that before I had woken up out of this sleep I was in.

There was one moment when my mom let us go to the screen door at the back of the house to watch the commotion. There was a local television news crew back there and my dad was mad because they wouldn't get off of our property and just wanted to film the ugly stuff. My dad got in an argument with a camera man and my dad punched him in the face. Luckily this was a time when the police didn't take you to jail for such things. (1957)

OBEs for me are commonplace and regular still today.

Michael R. MacDonald said...

Atrue, thanks for posting that incredible event. Perhaps you could add a blog to your profile that details more of these happenings in your life. I know I would love to read more. It reminds me of an incident that happened to me in 1980 when I had a vision of the rescue attempt in Iran for the American hostages. I will post that story soon.

Atrueoriginall said...

I was thinking about doing that once and I have posted my experiences in the past only to find them in someone's book - that is disheartening.

I like to keep them in my forum for the most part and only but a fraction in order to keep them out of the general public's eye. So instead and occasionally I post them amongst comments in the blogs of others so that only those reading the blog's article see them and not the masses.

I might reconsider someday but gosh, I have 4 blogs that have become something I didn't expect so my plate is extremely full. I am depended on now by strangers. lol They sometimes impatiently sit in wait for my daily paranormal or alien/UFO posts in that Quickblog especially.

Even that comment I posted here was a copy/paste from my forum because I don't have the time to sit and type such - not anymore.

I don't like being 'depended on' by my blog's guests but I most certainly am now and I'm stuck, which I like but on the other hand I don't since they're dictating my daily routine. I created a monster I guess.

Without having to hop around in there, here's a couple of pages where I've posted some OBEs and awake state Visions - screenname - alien_contactee I've had. Mind you I have two humongous boxes of notes from experiences that I have never put to a keyboard let alone posted. My experiences are ongoing each and every day and during every REM sleep.

Mike Clelland! said...

Okay - here's another curious posting, also linked to Kartott's blog. She writes about a dream experience of grand importance. And it also mimics another excellent blog from a writer named Chris Knowles.

Mythic imagery within a sweaty fever dream of youth. Bloggers speak in the
grand iconic language of metaphor.

Curiously similar. Compare / contrast.

Kartott's fever dream:
http://postreason.blogspot.com/2009/04/red-painted-man.html

Chris Knowle's fever dream:
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/01/mindbomb-part-4-leprechaun.html

(I love this kind of stuff!)

Michael R. MacDonald said...

Thanks Mike!